Christmas Wraptor

December 25, 2009

[This blog appears Christmas Day, 2009, in Ken Ham’s blog, “Around the World with Ken Ham.” It is used by permission.]

Ever since the first time I spoke before a church audience in Australia more than 30 years ago, I have been a strong believer in the need to get resources—books and videos especially—into the hands of those who are introduced to the creation/gospel message. People just retain the information better, and in turn share it much more effectively, when they have resources to refer to again and again.

In that regard, the “Dragon Hall” bookstore that is part of the Creation Museum is integral to our ministry. (In fact, we often so heavily discount certain of our resources that we barely even cover our expenses. For instance, we’re giving away a $14.99 DVD to every family that attends Bethlehem’s Blessings!)

I’m thankful for the many talented and hard working individuals that God has brought to Answers in Genesis and the Creation Museum, and that certainly includes the team that keeps things working smoothly (most of the time anyway!) in Dragon Hall.

This week an online publication that serves Christian bookstores recognized an idea of Dragon Hall bookstore manager John Bartlett and the design efforts of clerks Amanda Ketron and Christina Richards. Take a look at the special “Christmas Wraptor” display that Amanda and Christina created! This is just another example of how God uses the talents of His people to capture the attention of our visitors. Great job, bookstore team! It’s great to see even a “trade” publication recognizing the quality of the Creation Museum.

FREE GIFT: To remind us of the Free Gift of salvation God has given us in his Son, the Creation Museum is open free to the public today.

PHOTO OF THE WEEK: Just to show you I do relax some times (even though I had to look up the definition of ‘relax’ in the dictionary), I have included a photograph taken when I and my wife recently attended a performance in Cincinnati of Handel’s Messiah:

Handel's "Messiah" performed in Cincinnati

DEVOTION: They have hardened

(Jeremiah 19:15)  “They have hardened their necks, that they might not hear my words. For the defiant lost there is nothing wrong with our Gospel, they have a neck problem, but we continue to compassionately preach so they will not end in hell.”

Thanks for stopping by and thanks for praying, Ken


[The following article originally appeared in the Dec. 16, 2009 issue of, the website of the Broken Arrow Ledger.]

Some churches suffering loss of attendance.

By Lucienda Denson, Lifestyle Editor

“Nationwide polls and denominational reports are showing that the next generation is calling it quits on the traditional church. And it’s not just happening on the nominal fringe; it’s happening at the core of the faith.”

That’s the opening paragraph in a press release promoting a new book, “Already Gone,” by Ken Ham and Britt Beemer, with Todd Hillard.

Nick Garland, pastor of First Baptist Church in Broken Arrow, considers the findings so on target, the church recently hosted an “Answers in Genesis” conference led by Ham.

During the conference, Garland asked those in attendance to have a small group prayer that young adults at First Baptist would not be among the two-thirds who are “already gone” from the church.

Two-thirds of young adults who have grown up in evangelical churches are leaving, according to Ham and Beemer.

Information in the book is based on data collected from 20,000 phone calls and detailed surveys of 1,000 20-to-29-year-olds who used to attend evangelical churches on a regular basis but have since left them behind.

Garland compared what is happening in 21st century evangelical churches to Martin Luther’s Reformation in 1517 that created protestant churches and the creation of the Puritans who separated themselves from the Church of England.

“This is a literal re-shaping of the church the way it has been for the past 400 or 500 years,” Garland said.

“They (young people) have written church off as a moralistic bad guy that wants to keep them from enjoying their life. You don’t have to have a passport to find them; they are on every street in the city,” he said. And they’re not just young adults. Separation is beginning as early as middle school.

Young people no longer believe in Genesis, which is the basis for Christianity, Garland said. They question everything from creation to the divinity of Christ, and for that he credits laws that require the evolution theory be taught in public school classrooms and ban instruction on Biblical creation.

Nancy Mabry, youth director at St. Stephen’s United Methodist Church, agrees that evangelical churches are losing twenty-somethings, but she credits a reluctance to make any sort of commitment as the underlying cause.

If young people can’t commit to a skating party on Sunday evening until Sunday morning, they’re going to have difficulty making long-term commitments to anything else, Mabry said.

When she was in her 20s, she said “If you didn’t have a fever, you went to church. Some people say they don’t come to church because Sunday is the only day they have to spend with family. Why don’t they spend it with their family in church? Now, church is an option,” Mabry said.

There is an exception, however, according to Mabry. Traditional churches that are liturgical churches and smaller evangelical churches seem to be retaining their twenty-something members in greater numbers than larger and mega-churches.

The Rev. John Wilke, senior pastor of Immanuel Lutheran Church, has read the book and said he found it to be a fascinating study.

He cited one of Luther’s writings as something for church leaders to consider: “A faith that costs nothing and demands nothing is worth nothing.”

“I think that is where the church is today. I get too many things in the mail from churches that say, ‘Come just the way you are, you don’t have to change,’” Wilke said.

“While God loves you where you are, he expects you to change. We don’t put the fear of God in our churches, we don’t have that respect. We’ve made Jesus our homeboy. He’s not our homeboy, he’s our Saviour.”

Wilke said the only church he knows of that is experiencing growth in the 20-to-29-year old age group is the Greek Orthodox Church.

“The Greek Orthodox Church is a liturgical church. Kids want to return to something different from what they get from the world. If we want to reach these kids again, we are going to have to return to what the early church was doing. We need to raise the bar,” he said.

Wilke would endorse a movement to extend confirmation study to two years, so members fully understand the doctrine of the church they are joining, and that God is bigger than they are.

“God isn’t a vending machine of good gifts. This (joining the church) will not be the easiest thing you have done,” Wilke said.

The Rev. Shelby Scott, pastor of St. Patrick’s Episcopal Church, said the 20-to-29-year-olds are holding steady at St. Patrick’s. One of Scott’s sons is in that age group.

“There is sort of a strange rebound in some of the ancient liturgies, such as Catholic, Greek Orthodox and Episcopalian. What we would call the emerging church is something that is very appealing to that age group. Places that have a sense of order, mystery and transcendence are very appealing.

“Those are the areas that are growing. I am seeing a slight uptake here of people of that age,” Scott said.

“I think there is a hunger where entertainment is the approach to worship. It doesn’t really satisfy. I think there is a richness in the ancient traditions that speaks at levels where contemporary music fails. My experience is different than what you’re seeing in the ‘already gone’ people.”

Scott agrees with Garland that Christian worship is going through a significant change. He believes young people are looking for a doctrine that requires more of them than just showing up at church.

“The pendulum is swinging back. What previously had been discredited –  traditional liturgies and such things as incense and mystery – has become something of a strength and intrigue for the younger generation,” he said.

[Already Gone is published by Master Books.]

Already Gone Impact

December 7, 2009

[The following post was originally published in Ken Ham’s personal blog, “Around the World with Ken Ham.” Ken is the founder and president of Answers in Genesis and the author of numerous books, including  Already Gone published by Master Books.]

Here is a testimony of the impact of the book Already Gone from Dan Lietha , our talented artist of such things as our regular and popular web cartoon called AfterEden. Here is a report he sent to me recently about the impact of our new book Already Gone—a book which explains why so many young people are sadly leaving the church.

Hi Ken, I wanted to tell you of some friends of mine who saw you speak in northern Wisconsin at Northland International University.

This past July, I had the privilege of speaking for a week at Lake Ellen Bible camp in the Upper Peninsula of  Michigan. This is the same Bible camp I attended as a youth. The theme for the 2009 summer was “WANTED: Dead to Sin, Alive to God” taken from Romans 6:11, and it fit very well for me to do a series of talks on the 7Cs of history how we were created alive to God, but we became dead to God  because of our sin.  Because of the Last Adam, Jesus Christ, we can become alive to God again. It is only through Christ that we can be alive to God and dead to sin.

While I was there I gave the camp program director, Ralph Peterson, some AiG materials (books and DVDs) to further equip and encourage them in their ministry. One of those DVDs was the message from your book Already Gone. Here is what Ralph told me about the impact of watching that DVD later that summer. Here is what Ralph wrote. – Dan Lietha

“During one of our staff meetings we watched Ken Ham’s DVD “Already Gone.” When we were done, several of us had the same idea that next summer we need to focus on creation. Having that in mind, I spent a morning thinking about themes for the summer.  As something would come to mind, I would write it down.  I took those to our staff and read through them.  There were several that everyone liked.  But as I spent time thinking about the material in Ken Ham’s book “Already Gone,” I kept thinking that we need to communicate to the campers that they need to remember what the Bible teaches about creation — and give them some tools to use in defense of their faith. So I decided on the theme “A Week To Remember.”  As well as remembering that they can trust the Bible 100%, we hope that the kids will remember the fun week they had at camp.”

[The following post was originally published in Ken Ham’s personal blog, “Around the World with Ken Ham.” Ken is the founder and president of Answers in Genesis and the author of numerous books, including  Already Gone published byMaster Books.]

One of the people in the group of almost 300 atheists/agnostics who visited the Creation Museum a few months ago wrote this on his blog:

It is in the minds and hearts of our children that the battle will be fought . . . .

Secular humanists understand that if you can brainwash children from an early age in evolution and an anti-Christian philosophy, they will capture their hearts and minds. Sadly, they are being very successful at this. As we have shown in the book, Already Gone—based on statistically valid research conducted by America’s Research Group—the two-thirds of young people who are leaving the church really are doing so because the church is not countering what the world is doing to indoctrinate them against the Bible’s history (particularly in Genesis).

All over the world, the secular humanists (who are a minority in the culture) are gaining ground, capturing new generations of kids. The Already Gone research also showed that children from the church are being lost much earlier than most people think—40% by the end of middle school and another 45% by the end of high school.

Sadly, the secularists have already scored another victory in England to capture the hearts and minds of young children. Here are excerpts from a report from the BBC (by the way, as you read this, keep in mind that primary school is the equivalent of elementary school in the USA):

Primary school children in England will have to learn about evolution . . . .

Schools Minister Vernon Coaker says the subjects will be compulsory elements of a new primary school curriculum being introduced in 2011. Scientists and humanists had lobbied ministers for the inclusion of evolution in the theme-based timetable. . . . The British Humanist Association (BHA) had led a campaign to have Darwin’s theory of how life evolved through natural selection made a compulsory element of the new primary curriculum. It organised a public letter signed by more than 500 from scientists and supporters.

Andrew Copson of the BHA said: “This is excellent news. Evolution is arguably the most important concept underlying the life sciences. Providing children with an understanding of it an early age will help lay the foundations for a surer scientific understanding later on.” He added: “Public authorities clearly need to do more to tackle the growing threat to the public’s understanding of science from creationist-inspired beliefs and other pseudoscience”.

Evolution is already taught in secondary schools and many primary schools, but under the curriculum changes, it will become compulsory for primary pupils, with the recommendation that they are taught the subject in their later years at school. The new curriculum says schools must “investigate and explain how plants and animals are interdependent and are diverse and adapted to their environment by natural selection”.

Professor Sir Martin Taylor, vice-president of the Royal Society, said: “We are delighted to see evolution explicitly included in the primary curriculum. One of the most remarkable achievements of science over the last two hundred years has been to show how humans and all other organisms on the earth arose through the process of evolution.”

By the way, as any of you who have heard AiG speakers or read many of the articles on the AiG website, we totally agree with natural selection—it is an observable process—but it has absolutely nothing to do with molecules-to-man evolution. In fact, when properly understood, it is easy to see it is the opposite of the molecules-to-man idea and confirms the biblical account of God creating distinctkinds of animals and plants—after their kind.

Now, think about this in regard to the USA. Students in almost all public schools are already taught evolution as fact from a young age. Also, Christianity was thrown out of the public schools in the USA years ago and replaced with the religion of naturalism (or atheism). Ninety percent of kids from church homes attend public schools. That is why every parent needs to read the book Already Gone to understand what is happening to their children if they attend a typical public school.

[The following post was originally published in Ken Ham’s personal blog, “Around the World with Ken Ham.” Ken is the founder and president of Answers in Genesis and the author of numerous books, including  Already Gone published byMaster Books.]

Here is the press release sent out this week about our new Dinosaurs for Kidsbook:

image003New ‘Dinosaurs for Kids’ from Ken Ham Wows Kids and Parents Alike

PETERSBURG, Ky., Nov. 18, 2009 – While there is no lack of colorfully illustrated books about dinosaurs for children, by and large these books talk about how many millions of years ago the dinosaurs lived, and how many billions of years old the Earth is. Many creationist parents have largely been stuck supplying these books for their dinosaur-loving children while cautioning them against the evolutionary teaching within.

Not any more, as Ken Ham, president and founder of Answers in Genesis and the Creation Museum, has just released “Dinosaurs for Kids” through Master Books, with all the great illustrations those other books have, but written from a biblical worldview.

“As a parent, and now as a grandparent, I saw my children’s and grandchildren’s fascination with dinosaurs and their desire to read every book about dinosaurs they could get their hands on,” Ham said. “Inevitably, we were all disappointed by the teaching of millions and billions of years, the claim that dinosaurs evolved into birds, and the humanistic world view presented in them.

“I determined, as a writer of creationist and apologetics materials – for both adults and children – that I would help remedy the dinosaur book situation,” Ham continued. “I couldn’t be more pleased with how the book turned out.  Wonderfully and powerfully illustrated by Bill Looney, this book will not disappoint Christian parents and their children.”

“Dinosaurs for Kids” will help to fill a void of creation-based science books for elementary age children, which has been a contributing factor to young people leaving the church as they get older. Research commissioned by Answers in Genesis and conducted recently by America’s Research Group (ARG) showed that – by and large – children are “already gone” from church in their minds by junior high and high school, because Sunday school could not answer their hard questions about origins and the trustworthiness of Scriptures.

The results from this survey were published in the book “Already Gone,” co-written by Ken Ham and ARG Founder and President Britt Beemer.  The book has been selling steadily since its release in late May, with more than 90,000 copies in print, and has inspired influential churches and church leaders across the nation to re-think how they are conducting church and Sunday school.  Dr. Charles Stanley, pastor of First Baptist Atlanta, has just written an endorsement of the book’s next edition; last month he had Ken Ham give a message based on the book at the church’s morning worship services.

The decay regarding young people often begins, Ham and Beemer discovered, with a lack of faith in the creation story of Genesis. Children tend to separate the “stories” of the Bible from the “hard facts” taught in almost all public schools about evolution and the age of the Earth. They look to their secular textbooks for answers, not the Bible.

Now, with the release of “Dinosaurs for Kids,” parents and teachers alike will have a new resource for helping children understand their beliefs about origins in a scientific context. These kids can once again embrace their love of dinosaurs, and their teachers and parents can encourage those discussions in a biblical context.

“Dinosaurs for Kids” includes full-color illustrations throughout, with an easy-to-understand timeline of dinosaurs’ true history from creation to the most recent discoveries—and convincing evidence that they did not die out 65 million years ago. It explains how the Flood affected the dinosaurs, when and where dinosaurs existed, how fossils like dinosaur skeletons are made, and why they are found all over the Earth. A recurring theme is the difference between biblical history (God’s revelation) and  assumptions by fallible secular scientists.

Recommended for ages 7-12, the 64-page, hard cover, 8 ½ by 11 book retails for $14.99. Published by Master Books, “Dinosaurs for Kids” is available at Christian bookstores everywhere, or online

Scholarship Opportunity

December 7, 2009

[The following post was originally published in Ken Ham’s personal blog, “Around the World with Ken Ham.” Ken is the founder and president of Answers in Genesis and the author of numerous books, including  Already Gone published byMaster Books.]

As this unique scholarship involves a book written by AiG personnel, I thought it would be good to publicize this opportunity for students:


Master Books, an imprint of New Leaf Publishing Group [and publisher of many of our books], will award one $3000 scholarship for the 2010–2011 academic school year. The 2010 Master Books Scholarship Essay Contest is open to any high school junior or senior or the equivalent thereof from any public, private, or homeschool venue. The applicant must be a U.S. citizen and have a minimum GPA of 3.0 or above.

This scholarship is a one-time award and may be used at any accredited two-year, four-year, or trade school within the contiguous United States. This award covers only tuition and university-provided room and board. The scholarship monies will be forwarded to the college, university, or trade school of the winner’s choice in the winner’s name upon receipt of a copy of the winner’s confirmed admission to their chosen school.

  • Scholarship information and application can be downloaded online
  • High school transcript or the equivalent is required. Transcripts or the equivalent must be signed by the high school counselor, homeschool evaluator/supervisor, or principal. Scholarship submission name must be exactly as noted on the transcript in order to qualify for the scholarship.
  • Scholarship applicant information, essay and transcript must be submitted by mail to:

Master Books Scholarship Essay Program
P.O. Box 726
Green Forest, AR  72638

Deadlines and other important dates:

  • Scholarship available online: Now
  • Scholarship due date: Applications, transcript, and essay are due February 28, 2010
  • Scholarship Announcement: Winner will be notified by student and parent email on or before May 1, 2010

Conditions of Scholarship Eligibility:

  • Must be a U.S. citizen
  • Must be a high school junior or senior or the equivalent
  • Must be enrolled or enrolling in a U.S. accredited two-year, four-year, or trade school for the fall of 2010 or the fall of 2011
  • Must have a minimum GPA of 3.0 out of 4.0 (or the equivalent)

The Essay:

Students planning to apply for this essay scholarship may download two freechapters of the AiG book The New Answers Book 2 at After reading these two chapters, students are invited to write a 500 to 1500 word essay with the following focus:

Describe the differing views concerning the beginning of life (according to Chapter 29) and your personal conclusions based on the information.

The essay will be judged on creativity, clarity of thought, accuracy, research, grammar, and spelling. The student’s essay will be the property of Master Books and may be used as an example or to promote this scholarship in the future. The student winner and his/her parent or guardian will be notified by email of their winning status and then must submit a written acceptance of the scholarship award by no later than July 30, 2010. If the acceptance of the scholarship is not received by July 30, 2010, the monies will be awarded to the 1st runner-up.

The Master Books Scholarship will be submitted to the winner’s accredited school upon receipt of a copy of their acceptance to that school. If the scholarship winner does not complete a full semester at the accredited school, the monies must be returned to Master Books to be awarded to the 1st runner-up. The winner agrees that all of his/her scholarship combined benefits do not exceed the cost of tuition, fees, and university-provided room and board as stated in the institution’s cost of attendance.

Download the application from Master Books.

[The following post was originally published in Ken Ham’s personal blog, “Around the World with Ken Ham.” Ken is the founder and president of Answers in Genesis and the author of numerous books, including  Already Gone published byMaster Books.]

On November 13, I posted a blog item with the heading “Liberal Lutheran Pastor Slams Already Gone Book and Marriage.” If you haven’t read this item I encourage you to do so or refresh your memory by going to this previous blog posting.

Well, the pastor responded on his own blog, virtually ignoring the fact that we pointed out numerous false statements in his previous posting concerning AiG and its CEO. He admitted he was wrong about the publisher of the Already Gone book—but tried to justify his mistake. However, he basically ignored everything else and used his next blog to attack us for answering his accusations that he put up publicly on the worldwide web!

Mark Looy, AiG’s Chief Communications Officer, in a gracious but firm way, attempted to post a comment to the pastor’s blog—but the comment was not approved.

The ELCA pastor has now stated that he “had to close all the comments on my personal blog due to hate filled comments from AiG supporters.” This included, we suppose, Mark’s rebuttal to correct the many mistakes the pastor had made about our book Already Gone—but was denied. Now, do Mark’s comments below seem hateful to you? Here is what Mark tried to post—word for word—so that the pastor’s blog comments will not go unchallenged.

Greetings, pastor, from Answers in Genesis.

Ken Ham did not make a personal attack on you as a person but on the content of your lengthy, error-filled commentary on our book Already Gone. Even though you said you did not read the book, you wrote so knowingly (and at length) about it, including the book’s conclusions. You were wrong, though, on so many counts about the book’s content:

—You originally wrote that AiG has “one goal and one goal only—to teach Creationism.” That is a patently false statement. In so many of our articles, and even in our core values statement and our mission statement, we state clearly that our mission is to bring reformation to the church and to proclaim the gospel. As Ken wrote in his blog in countering your many false statements, “we stand on the authority of God’s Word, proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ, to see people saved and be in Heaven! In fact, I often state in my talks that there is no purpose in converting people to creationism—for creationists will end up in Hell just like an atheist if they don’t believe and trust our Creator as Lord and Savior.”

—You stated that our book was about “only mainline” churches being in decline. An absolutely wrong comment. If you had read the book, you would have noticed that we summarized the contents of a poll taken of those who attended theologically conservative churches, NOT mainline (generally liberal) ones. You missed the intent of the whole survey: to see why so many young people leave conservative churches, and you said it was mainline churches.

—You called us a “fringe” ministry. Well, in recent Gallup polls, almost half of Americans agreed with the statement that humans today are the descendants of Adam and Eve from about 10,000 years ago. And many of the largest churches in America have hosted us in their pulpits this year, such as First Baptist Atlanta, Calvary Chapel in Costa Mesa, Thomas Road Baptist, etc. This is not “fringe”. Plus, Dr. David Menton of our staff spoke at a Lutheran seminary last month. Our supporters come from all across the evangelical spectrum.

In addition, our website gets more traffic than almost all ministries, our radio program is on 800 stations in the U.S., over 900,000 guests have visited our Creation Museum in less than 2 1/2 years, etc., and yet you write that we are “fringe”?

—Another wrong statement you made: that we tie “nuclear weapons” to creationism. Where have we ever made a bizarre statement like that?

—You wrote that “as society changed, the definition [of] marriage changed in the Bible. It wasn’t just between a man and a woman . . . .” Well, how do you deal with what Jesus said about marriage in Matthew chapter 19? “Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?” God made them male and female, and this is the “cause” (i.e., reason) for marriage. Marriage is between a man and woman only.

—No, we are not a rich ministry, however you have chosen to define “rich”. Our biggest expense is staff salary (we have about 300 staff), and that’s the biggest chunk of our expense (as we attempt to pay a “workman worthy of his/her hire”). Also, had you done your research, you would have noticed that much of the excess we have on the books is money that has been set aside for the construction of a new auditorium (we are still collecting the funds and have not yet started to build). Plus, the salary figure you quoted for Ken includes benefits and expenses. I should mention that the executive directors of two similar-sized non-profit organizations in this area receive 2–3 times the compensation. Lastly, most people would say that “rich” describes a person earning at least $1 million a year.

You were concerned that “the part that hurt me the most” about Ken’s blog was that he mentioned your name and church name, adding that “I am assuming there was a reason for this which I can guess is to encourage people who come and read his blog to spam my site, my twitter address, and possibly church with personal attacks.” No, we don’t want people to attack you. But when we read of someone making so many false charges about our ministry and is also compromising the Bible’s clear teachings in the foundational book of Genesis, we want to warn people. As you yourself stated in your original article, “I write this not to only criticize, but also to warn.” You find it fine to warn people about us in a public way and yet we are not allowed to? Yes, it’s not fun being corrected, but that is not an attack on your person.

You wrote a “scathing” (your word) article about us and mentioned Ken by name, but why did you hide behind a pseudonym?

You apologized for mistakenly calling AiG the publisher of Already Gone. Thank you for that. But please retract the much more serious mistakes you made.

Pastor, please: next time you summarize the contents of a book and present a critique (a “review”), read it first.


Mark Looy
Answers in Genesis

The above certainly doesn’t seem like one of the supposed “hate filled comments” to me! I challenge this theologically liberal Lutheran pastor to admit where he was wrong—he can certainly disagree with us, but to publicly make false statements against us and not allow us to present the other side for his followers to read? That needs to be dealt with! Sadly, the pastor dealt with it this way on his blog:

Attention Spammers from AiG November 16, 2009 at 12:23 am

In the past few days, I have been getting lots of spam/hate comments/comments telling me how horrible I am/telling me how I am going to hell/telling me I am wrong/telling me how much I hate the Bible/etc. I have also gotten phone calls at the church I am called to. This is exactly what I wrote would happen due to a negative blog from the president of Answers In Genesis. I am so glad that you are taking the time to check out my blog and then writing comments that are either hurtful or unkind about me or about my ministry. I have been forced to remove comments until this all blows over. I hope your zeal for insulting me is just as strong as it is for Christ. I will continue to hold onto the grace of God and the cross of Christ. I will continue to preach his word. Please use your time for this purpose as well. As you can see, I have removed the articles to help speed the process of healing and forgiveness. I challenge Ken Ham to do the same. Have an awesome Christ filled day!”

So, he can make false statements about me and AiG—he can misrepresent us in various ways—we correct him (NOT in a hateful way), and his response is the above? Again, I challenge the pastor to deal with the false accusations he made against us—yes, we obviously disagree regarding marriage, creation, etc.—but many of the previous statements he made about our ministry and us personally were simply not true (as Mark has gently but firmly demonstrated). That needs to be dealt with by the pastor, but he is apparently so embarrassed by what he has written, that he now does not want any further public embarrassment by being corrected on his blog by our posting—and has shut down further comment. He has refused our efforts to give his readers the other (correct) side.

Also, we would never say that a person who does not believe in Genesis as written can’t be a Christian—it’s faith in Christ that saves.

By the way, Mark would welcome a call from the pastor if he wants to discuss this further.